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There is a recognizable efflux of believers into agnosticism and frank atheism. It's an easy route, I won't say exactly a cop out position, but in today's world, with it's relative popularity among scientists, there is a favored herd emigration. Growing numbers is leading to team play and fanaticism of sorts with disbeliever priests seen preaching against organized religion full time as a lucrative career. Teems of zealous disbelievers group up and mob lynch believers on available internet fora, twitter and other social media platforms. Attacking religion appears to be their most relevant preoccupation.
My simple and irrefutable two pieces of proof below are not addressed to the fanatic disbeliever, who it's typically a waste of time addressing, but to the true knowledge seeker, the believer seeking reassurance and the skeptic. These proofs were thrown over the past days to a crowd of highly studied disbelievers on twitter who tried, purposely discombobulated, but failed at refuting them.
1. The God Of Creation
It was a shock to the science community when it recently discovered the big bang concept. That the universe began probably from a 'point' or less, 12 to 14 billion years ago and continues to expand. Scientists had prior thought the universe as is had always been. They did not believe in the creation tale preached by prophets of all major monotheistic faiths. They did not believe that all matter and all energy, this our galaxy and all other billions of galaxies were created from naught and continue to expand. They laughed at people of the religion when we told them this.
The Hindu Rigveda, 10:129 describes the creation event thus:
नासदासींनॊसदासीत्तदानीं नासीद्रजॊ नॊ व्यॊमापरॊ यत् ।
किमावरीव: कुहकस्यशर्मन्नभ: किमासीद्गहनं गभीरम् ॥१॥
Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no air then, nor the heavens beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?
न मृत्युरासीदमृतं न तर्हि न रात्र्या।आन्ह।आसीत् प्रकॆत: ।
आनीदवातं स्वधया तदॆकं तस्माद्धान्यन्नपर: किंचनास ॥२॥
Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.
तम।आअसीत्तमसा गूह्ळमग्रॆ प्रकॆतं सलिलं सर्वमा।इदम् ।
तुच्छॆनाभ्वपिहितं यदासीत्तपसस्तन्महिना जायतैकम् ॥३॥
At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of heat.
The OM, or the One who created the universe, the monotheistic Supreme God of Hinduism is Brahman. (Not to be confused with Brahma). Many do not know that Hinduism is a monotheistic faith like Yoruba traditional religions and most African traditional religions; with One Supreme being: God, but the people using attributes like thunder (sango), ancestors, and millions of other gods (small "g") as intermediaries so to say.
The Muslim Quran described the creation event too, 1400 years before science caught up, thus:
Did the unbelievers not realize that the heavens and the earth were one unit of creation, then We clove them asunder and We made every living being out of water? 29 Will they, then, not believe (that We created all this)? (Quran 21:30)
And described the continued expansion of the universe:
It is We who have built the universe with (Our creative) power, and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it. (Quran, The Winnowing ways/Scaterers, 51:47)
To compare, the big bang is described scientifically thus,
“…that the universe began billions of years ago as a tiny dot that exploded into today’s huge system of stars and planets..”
With the realization that the Universe arose from a single initial eternal Singularity, and all energy today was/is the One energy, science was said to have "found God," as a Newsweek caption put it. They had come to terms with the years old religious creation event, Omnipotence, Omnipresence and the Eternal Original Singularity from and of which all is/"became." Science saw evidence of and sat down to dedicate itself to the study and documentation of perfectly written laws that guided and guide the evolving of the Universe, including our perfect Earth home and everything in it.
Now with this backdrop, the piece of irrefutable evidence follows in a question. Based on the scientific principle of inertia: a body stays in place unless moved or moves unless stopped, without there being a God, how did the initial Singularity of the big bang "come into being" and what triggered its expansion into the universe we have today?
Not just do all disbelievers not know this answer, they can never deny the fact that it must take a Supreme Being outside (so-to-say) of the realm of the eternal Singularity, or/and contained in It/of which It is contained, to trip its inertia and spark its expansion into this universe. There will be no cup on your table and the cup will not slide to the edge and fall off unless someone put it there and someone pushed it. Unless disbelievers believe in magical thinking.
Now, as an important footnote to this point: "who made God?," Is the next question disbelievers ask. That's so easy to explain to them. The Bible says in Hosea 4:6, that "people perish for lack of understanding." Who made God is an unbelievably irrational question. "Made" is terminology dependent on time and space. "Created" is a time based vocabulary that depends on the laws of this post big bang universe and is limited to it. The Singularity, and God are "before" the expansion that created time, space and place, the three relatives. "When was it created?, "who created it?," are for creatures made within time, space and place. "Before" the Big bang, there was no when, not where and no distance. The Singularity as science understands was/is eternal. This is scientifically sound understanding, yet lame disbelievers question how the God of the Singularity can likewise be eternal. I'll stop here, any questions can be forwarded to my contacts, @EveryNigerian.
2. Consciousness, Initiation And Contemplation Of Thought
I must introduce this proof with a poem by the famous 13th century mystic Persian poet, Jalaludeen Rumi (1207- 1273).
We are as the flute, and the music in us is from thee;
we are as the mountain and the echo in us is from thee.
We are as pieces of chess engaged in victory and defeat:
our victory and defeat is from thee, O thou whose qualities are comely!
Who are we, O Thou soul of our souls,
that we should remain in being beside thee?
We and our existences are really non-existence;
thou art the absolute Being which manifests the perishable.
We all are lions, but lions on a banner:
because of the wind they are rushing onward from moment to moment.
Their onward rush is visible, and the wind is unseen:
may that which is unseen not fail from us!
Our wind whereby we are moved and our being are of thy gift;
our whole existence is from thy bringing into being.
We are indeed lions on a banner. We think we move but the movement is only from and by the energy from which we came/of which "we" are. The Omnipotence of which we are made or rather, within which we appear. Like menacing painted lions moving back and forward (side to side) on a flag.
Our brains are made up of entanglements of neurons. Twisted wires with chemicals flowing between. Each of these neurons, as is every part of us, is made up of molecules, made up of inanimate atoms. So as Biology 101 introduces, our brains are made up of atoms, in molecules and then in neurons and then the entanglements and then the nervous system.
The question is, how do these inheritance-derived systems built of atoms initiate thought and the contemplation of thought? While the system is a network, thought must be initiated at a point. Like the power that comes through the complex circuits that supply our homes are initiated at hydro-electric or nuclear power plants and ultimately by an operated single switch. While thought is complex and once the cascade is triggered, several neurons will be recruited to excite and inhibit each other, that thought, that decision to go right or go wrong is initiated in a neuron first and in one of its atoms. How does this start? What is the name of the thought initiator atom or do the initiator atoms alternate? Which ones are they and how do they initiate? What part of the atom initiates the thought initiation process? Is it the electron? The never seen, yet believed electron? (Note, recordings of its attributes do not constitute visualization of the electron, which is impossible according to the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle. But disbelievers believe in the electron but pose the same argument against the "existence" of God in spite of His attributes in the perfect laws of the creation, being seen, measured and documented.)
No disbeliever can ever answer this question. I listened to a world renowned human biologist, Robert Sapolsky of Stanford USA, answer the question on freewill. While admitting that it puzzled him (them), he dispraised freewill with the words, "there is not a lot of freewill out there and if there is, it is in the least interesting places, getting more sparse all the time." He went on to prioritize mention of parasites controlling people's minds, limiting freewill or initiating thought.
Without God, thought cannot be initiated. An inanimate atom cannot trigger thought, but the flow through the circuit starts at the atomic level from a first, single atom. A desperate argument can describe thought as one single continued process that starts at birth and never ends, but this attempt does not explain how that lengthy thought starts from cells made by genetic molecules. Genes do not carry thought (freewill) and cannot trigger the first atom in the brain to start the cascade of oscillating thought. Indeed science has found that your decisions are made 7 seconds before you even know you are thinking them.
God, the One single energy is the only explanation for the initiation and contemplation of thought.
by Dr. Peregrino Brimah
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